This is cool but where is this discussion in New York? I will have to get out all my black clothing so I don't look "past it." Concerning the Avant-garde: The issue is finished as far as I can tell. POMO or not; theory or not. Art still needs to be smart and felt. I look at my daughter's band for a far off analogy: They do not make distinctions between the Clash and the Beatles. That says something. It is not 1980 anymore.